Transitioning from Prison

Host Emma Lugo speaks with Anna Debenham, a counselor and advocate for recently and currently incarcerated persons, and with former insiders and gang members, Karl Armstrong and Brandon Brown, members of Phoenix Rising Transitions who recently paroled after being in prison for the past 15 years.  Karl and Brandon will discuss life on the outside and share their experiences of transition and involvement with Anna Debenham and her three principles program for insiders and outsiders.